脚本提供：智慧之光
中文翻译：修
全文校对：WQ
Caitlin Allen
Fifth knowledge seekers.
43 minutes.
Yes, I’m ready to begin. I’ll just make the announcement. OK, welcome everyone to the fifth kids knowledge seekers workshop. Brought to you by the kesh foundation. And my name is Rick Kramen, I’ll be your host today. Along with Kevin Daveney, who will also speak briefly before we hear from Mr Mehran Kesh, of the Kesh foundation who is in the spaceship institute now. And we’ll see some live video brought to us by the spaceship institute. Last week we discussed various aspects of plasma and magnetic fields and taught in a way that children can understand. We hope today to penetrate that area more and attempt to learn in a deeper way some of the principle concepts that make up our universe. OK, Kevin, would you like to say something before we begin the conversation with Mr Keshe? Oh, I’m sorry I didn’t have the microphone on the livestream there for yours. Could we redo that what you just said there Kevin, can you please?
RICK：是的，我准备好开始，我只是做了公告。
OK 欢迎大家来到第五次儿童知识寻求者讲座。本次活动由凯史基金主办。我是今天的主持人，Rick Kramen(瑞克.克莱曼),和我一起的是Kevin Daveney (卡文.戴文尼), 在凯史博士开始之前,将由卡文进行简明扼要的说明。凯史博士现在在宇宙飞船研究所。一会我们将收看来自宇宙飞船研究所的现场视频。上个星期，我们讨论了有关等离子和磁场的许多问题，博士以孩子们能理解的方法进行了讲解。我们今天要进一步研究学习并且尝试更深入的了解组成我们宇宙的一切原理概念。卡文，你愿意在我们和凯史博士交谈前说点什么吗？很抱歉还没有直播用的麦克风。卡文，我们能再做一遍你刚刚说的吗？
Hello Mr Kesh. I wanted to know what important does the environmental conditions which you always emphasize in your talks, that creating the environmental conditions is vital, is the key to creating whatever we need at that point of time? Again, talking about magnetic and gravitational fields which I, for a short time now actually, truly accept as a given fact that when you talked, you explained very very clearly in the Spanish knowledge seekers workshop you talked about the physics we’ve been taught is actually only half the physics. Whether its Newton or Tesla or whoever. So is that what what we did I as a kid at school wasn’t taught? That it’s only somehow one half, and where’s the other one?
KEVIN：好，凯史博士。我想了解在你的谈话中一直着重强调环境条件的重要性，创建环境条件是至关重要的，关乎届时我们可以创造出什么，不管我们需要什么取决于环境条件，另外，讨论一下磁场和重力场，我在短时间内接受到的事实就是你在西班牙知识寻求者讲座中，解释的非常清楚，实际上，你所讨论的我们一直被传授的物理知识只是它的一半。不管他是牛顿特斯拉还是谁。所以这就是我们在学校没有学到的吗？只是一半，而另一半在哪呢？
Good evening, good morning to the children and the parents of the children and their grandparents. I was told that adults are learning more from the children’s program about the plasma, than they did from the adults program. So, it’s good to be able to bridge that gap to the children. Maybe we are all a child at heart. In reality, what you have seen is not that we were not taught. We were not told, something the teacher kept back. The reality is, even the teachers did not know. They were not taught. And in a human being, there is a school of thought, a school way of thinking, is that we accept what the teachers tell us because we have to come to trust the teacher. But, in so many ways, the teachers themselves were not taught the right things. So, what do you expect? You cannot blame them. But, in so many ways, the teachers were taught by the scientists and the ideology of what was accepted to man for centuries, for decades.
KESHE： 早安，晚安孩子，家长，长辈们。据我所知，成人从儿童方案学到的比成人方案多。所以，非常高兴能够和孩子们架起这一桥梁。也许我们都有一颗童心。事实上，你所见的不一定是我们没学过的。有一些事情是老师有所保留，没有告诉我们的。实际上，甚至是老师也不知道，因为他们也没有学过。在人类当中，有一所思想学校，是一种思维方式，我们接受老师所教我们的，因为我们不得不相信老师。但是，在许多方面，老师并没有教我们正确的事情。所以，是怎么想的呢？你不能怪他们。但是，在许多当面，老师是由科学家及数个世纪以来人类接受的意识形态教出来的，这种一成不变的思想意识已经数百年了。
So, our parents, our grandparents, did not understand that there are two types of fields for the whole thing to be in balance. And that is, one has to pull, one has to push. And, in our life, we were taught about magnets, we played with magnets. But, they never told us that the pulling side, of what we call magnets are gravity. And even the teachers should have thought about that while they were teaching. And most of it will come through usa a language Gravitation with gravitas towards sombody or something gravitate towards gravity so it gets pulled. So, don’t blame the teachers, as teachers themselves were not taught themselves the fully story. Now, what we understand the fully story, is that you have to be able to think for yourself. And understand everything if it makes sense.
所以，我们的父母，长辈不理解两种场是为了万物的平衡。也就是说，一边拉，一边推。在我们的生活中，我们学过磁铁，也玩过磁铁。但是，我们从没有学过我们所说的磁场拉力一边就是重力。甚至老师在教的时候也应该考虑一下。这些用语言都说的通。某人被某物吸引或某物被重力吸引，然后它会得到拉力。但是不要怪老师，因为老师没有学到完整的内容。现在，我们了解了完整的内容，那就是你不得不为你自己思考。如果合理就能理解所有事物 。
As a lot of children know, adults know my quest for understanding gravity came at the young age of eight. And this has been a lifetime work to be(where we are) And now, has to be understood that never in the history of man knowledge have ever been dispensed with so freely or so openly., And, in so many ways, we have to, our inventor, Mr. Arman, just delivered to us our solar system. So you will see it in a minute, when we can focus on it. Yes, but you have to cover your computer as you know. I’ll try to turn the computer. So, what has happened is that teachers were never told about the gravity, even though they could see the gravity. Teachers, themselves, never understood that gravity is interaction between two fields. If the teachers could understand this, or could have added up to it or summoned to this point, we would have had a full understanding of the whole set up.
许多孩子都知道，大人知道我8岁开始对重力感兴趣。而且这成为我一生都要去了解的工作。而且现在，不得不承认，人类知识从未如此自由及开放的表达出来。在许多方面，我们要感谢我们的大发明家将太阳系送到我们面前。所以当我们有需要的时候，将会在一分钟之内看见太阳系。但是据你们所知你必须连上你的电脑。我将会试着开电脑。所以，情况是老师并未学到引力的知道 ，老师即使能看见重力，也永远不会学到有关重力的知识。老师永远不会理解重力在两种场中的相互作用。如果老师可以理解这些，或者慢慢理解，我们就会完整了解整个系统。
So, what it is, is very simple. For you, for example, to play a football, you need a ball and you make a football pitch. Being in the street, being in the garden or be it in a football stadium. SO, in so many ways, you create a condition to be able to play the game. If you are a girl and you love cooking, you don’t sit in front of the oven or pan and sit in front of the oven and wait for the food or the cake to come out of the oven or pan. You create a condition. You create heat to do the cooking. You make the flour, you go out and buy the butter. So, that is creating a condition. Creating an environment that the temperature of the oven is right, the temperature of the pan is right that you can cook.
那就是说，非常简单。对你来说，举个例子，想要踢足球，你需要一个球并且你要有一个足球场地。可以在大街上，可以在公园里，或者是在足球场里。所以，有许多种方法，你创造一个条件来玩游戏。如果你是一个女孩，你喜欢做饭，你不必坐在烤箱或是平底锅的前面，等待食物或蛋糕出炉。你要创造一个条件，你需要高温来做饭。你需要面粉，你要出去买黄油。所以，那就是创造条件。烤箱的温度要适中，平底锅的温度要适合做饭。
When you play football, you don’t go playing football with a tennis ball. This is what it’s about. You create a condition to be able to play the game. In the world of plasma, in world of physics, it’s the same. We create a condition. Once we create a condition, that condition leads to interaction and outcome. You buy a football, putting it on the ball, it doesn’t go. You have to kick it. You have to have somebody else to play with you, that will be a team, or somebody you can play a game with. So, this is what we do. That’s what we creating a condition is. In magnetic field in plasma, we create a condition in how close two plasmas come together. And when they come to close together, which part of the plasma interacts? This meaning that this plasma has a specific strength. And this plasma has its own specific strength. Not all the fields from this ball, can interact with all the fields in this ball. Some do. And the ones which they do, allows them to interfere. Allows them to show a result.
但你踢足球的时候，你不会用网球来踢。这就是创造条件。你创造条件来玩游戏。在等离子及物理领域，也是同样的道理。我们也需要创造一个条件。一旦我们创造出条件，这些条件将会得到结果。你买了一个足球，把它放在这个球上，球不会动。你必须踢它，必须有其他人和你一起玩，也就是一个足球队，或是能和你一起玩游戏的人。所以，这就是我们要做的事。这就是创造条件。在等离子的磁场中，我们创造一个条件就是两个等离子能离得多近。当他们离的太近的时候，哪一方等离子会作用？这意味着这个等离子有一种特殊的力。并且等离子有它自己特殊的力。在这个球中，不是所有的场能够相互作用的，有的可以。这些场允许它们相互产生作用，进而展示结果。
So, what we do, we create a condition. We bring the two plasmas close to each other. We bring two plasmas away from each other. And where they find a balance in their field, we say ok, this is their position. So, in the world of plasma, we do not do anything that you are not used to in the world of your work play. Or, in how you set up to do your cooking or playing football. We create a condition. And in plasma world and world of creation, the conditions can only be created by strength of magnetic field in respect to each other. What this means, this means as you know, you never see a bird to play with a donkey or with a horse. Very seldom, if it happens. You see horses play with horses and birds fly with the birds. This is the same thing in the world of plasma. Plasma, of a given the strength, they interact with each other.
所以，我们所做的就是创作一个条件。我们把两个等离子放在一起，把两个等离子分开，然后在两个等离子所形成的场中发现了平衡。 我们管这个叫它们的位置。 所以，在所有的等离子中，在你工作游戏的世界中，我们不做你所不熟悉的事情。或者你是怎样设法做饭或是踢足球的。我们创造了一个条件，在等离子世界和万物的世界中，条件只能是被磁场之间有关的力所创造出来的。也就是说，你所知道的，这意味着你永远不会看见一只鸟和一只驴或是马一起玩。就算极少，有时发生了。你看见的也是马和马玩，鸟和鸟飞。这和等离子世界是同样的道理。如果等离子被授予这种力，他们就会相互作用。
What is the strongest, according to the strength interacts with the other one. And how we manipulate and we create an environment that the plasmas come together and how they position in respect to each other, it creates the environment that what ever is in that environment can be affected or not affected by the fields. So, it is very much, when you have a magnet made of metal it only attracts or interacts with the iron .Now with the plasma technology understanding that you can control different sizes,different field the man for the first time has the ability to create the condition where you can make magnates which in teract and attract or repel ,would the world of magnet magnetic does not apply of any more only to iron ,or iron based connected materials.
根据他们之间相互的力，得到哪一个最强。我们如何创造一个环境使等离子在一起，了解他们之间相互作用的位置是怎样的，这就创造了一个环境。在这个环境中，哪些是可以被磁场影响的，而哪些不能被影响。所以，当你有一块金属制成的磁铁时，它只能和铁相互作用。现在，随着对等离子技术的理解，你可以控制不同的场，不同的大小。人类现在有能力创造一个条件，一个你可以使磁铁相互作用，吸引或排斥的条件。也就是说，磁铁不仅仅能和铁或铁基金属相连了。
So in the new world of plasma you can create a plasmatic condition where for example you want to make a magnet for plastic. This has become possible. Where, if you go somewhere and say for a magnet for plastic, they’ll laugh at you and say magnet can not be for plastic. Or say you want a magnet for wood, it does not exist. But now we have learned the process of creating a condition, that we can make gravitational and magnetic fields, of the plasma of the wood. So, when you bring your wood, you can attract the wood. In the coming time we will show you this. We are in the process of measuring and in time, over the next few months and years. Then, let’s say for example, if you lose a teddy bear in the house, you can have a machine that creates what is in that teddy bear and the teddy bear comes to you. These are not jokes any more.
所以，在等离子的新世界中，你可以创造等离子条件。举个例子，你可以用塑料做一个磁铁。这已经变成了可能性。如果你去某地买塑料做的磁铁，他们会嘲笑你。他们会说你不可能买到一个塑料磁铁。或者说，你想要一个木头做的磁铁，那根本不存在。但是现在我们已经了解到了创造条件的过程，我们就可以用木头等离子做出重力场和磁场。所以，当你带着木头，你就可以吸引到木头。在不远的未来，我们将会看到这项成果。最近几年来，我们都在评估当中。接下来，我们举个例子，你在屋子里丢了你的泰迪熊，你可以用一个机器创造出泰迪熊内部的结构，然后泰迪熊就能找到了。这些不是在开玩笑。
This is the reality of what it is. This is the reality of the plasma technology. You create a condition. You want to go to the moon, you want to go to Mars, you create a condition that matches the condition of the environment of the gravitational magnetic field of the moon. So, what happens, you are attracted to it. You don’t need to burn fuel. What this means is that, if you remember these magnets. I have to see which side you are that I can play that you can see. If you remember these magnets. You see if you got too fast, what happens? The magnet broke. It split apart. So, it was in the right environment, the right pressure. So, I tried to bring the camera down, then I put it back up again so we can see it. Because we are going to small magnets, it’s too far away from the camera for you to see it.
这就是等离子技术的事实。你创造一个条件。你想登上月球，你想登上火星，你可以创造一个条件。你可以创造一个和月球上的磁重力环境相匹配的环境。会发生什么，你会被吸引过去。而且你不需要烧燃料。这就是说，如果你还记得这些磁铁。你想看星球的那一边，你就会看到。如果你还记得这些磁铁。如果你去的太快，会发生什么呢？磁铁会坏掉，会破碎。那才是对的环境，对的压力。我试着把照相机放低一点，然后把它放回去我们就会看见。因为我们拿都是小的磁铁，而我们离照相机又太远。
So, what happens is that this here is a magnet for metal, from iron. So, what happens is that’s what is gravitating. I create a condition, in a way, these two gravitate to each other, they pull. But while they are pulling, I can create a condition where those two attract but this one is kicked out. What do they do, they go away. They don’t want to be with this one. But once it’s in the right position, they come together. So, I create an environment. This environment is very simple. In the world of plasma, we only understand one thing. Attracting or repelling. It means we want to be with the part, or we don’t want to be with the part. Or we create a condition to be a part. It’s very much like when you create a party. You create an environment that the friends come home, and they play. So, this is very much, you can see. Very, very simple. You don’t use any fuel. You find positioning.
如果这有金属，或是铁制成的磁铁会发生什么呢？会发生被吸引。我创造了一个条件，在某种程度上，它们俩会彼此吸引，它们会形成拉力。但是当他们形成拉力的时候，我创造一个条件，它们两个相互吸引，但是这个就会被踢出去。它们会怎么样呢？它们会排斥。它们不想和它在一起。但是一旦它到了正确的位置，它们就会吸引。所以，我创造了一个环境。这个环境非常简单。在等离子的世界，我们只明白一件事，吸引还是排斥。那意味着我们是想还是不想和这一部分在一起，或者说我们创造一个条件在一起。就像是你要举办一个聚会。你创造了一个环境，就是朋友们来到家里然后一起玩。这种情况在你身边很常见，而且很简单。你不用燃料。你找到正确的位置。
So, the world of plasma has taught us very new things. And that is to move, to create, to be able to produce anything. All we need to do is create an environment. And a condition that the environments allows us to get to, to achieve, to have what we want without damaging anybody else. Or anything else. At the present, the human’s knowledge and technology has literally have become, what can I destroy to achieve and have. We burn fuel to go from home to school. In fact, burning doesn’t destroy anything. You convert the matter into energy of different forms. But, in the process, you don’t have the same thing that you started with. In the universe, nothing is ever lost. All it does, it changes form from one thing to another. One of the processes are, with the matter, when you burn be it the wood, be it the fuel, you don’t miss anything. You just convert it in a dimension that you can’t physically see as it was before.
所以，等离子的世界教会我们很多新鲜的事物。那就是移动，创造，就能够发生一切。我们所需要的一切就是一个环境。一个条件，环境就允许我们到达我们想去的地方，得到我们想要的而不用破坏其他人或物。现在，人类的知识和技术慢慢的实现，我能用什么去到达某地或是得到某物呢？我们烧燃料从学校回到家。实际上，燃烧不能摧毁任何东西。你将物质转化成了不同的能量形式。但是，在过程当中，你不会再有你开始时的那个东西了。在宇宙中，没有任何事物会永远消失。它所做的就是把一种物态转化成另外一种物态。其中的过程之一，当你烧任何东西的时候，也许是木头或是燃料，你没有损失任何东西，你只是把它转化成了你看不见的形态，并不是你之前所见到的形态。
What does this mean is you put lets say you a piece of wood in a fire, and it burns. You burn it. Then you get the heat, you cook your food on it or you get warm sitting in front of it. But, at the end of the process, you don’t have wood anymore. Because, the energy, the structure of the plasma, which made that wood, now is partially part of your body because you absorbed it. Now, you have the energy of the wood. You have become the absorber of the energy to the wood. Part of the structure of the magnetic field of the wood is sitting in the metal which the wood was put in to burn it in the fireplace. Part of the structure is the ashes which you put out, part of it is in the gases which is the air that you breathe and it’s already become part of you. So, the wood you burn on the fireplace shares its fields in a different forms, becomes part of you because without that heat you’d be cold.
这是什么意思呢？也就是说，你把一块木头放进火里，它燃烧了。你烧了木头，然后你得到了热，你可以用它做饭或者取暖。但是，在过程结束的时候，你不会再有木头了。因为，能量，也就是等离子的结构，原来形成了木头，而现在成了你身体的一部分，因为你吸收了它。现在，你获得了木头的能量。你成了能量的吸收者。木头的能量变成了不同的形态，一部分木头磁场结构被壁炉吸收，一部分结构成了你拍掉的灰尘，另一部分成为了天上的你呼吸的气体，甚至有些变成了你身体的一部分。所以，你在壁炉里烧的头将它的场变成了不同的形态，变成了你的一部分。因为，没有它产生的热你就会感到冷。
But in plasma technology, all we do is connect and link the magnetic fields without burning, without changing the structure. So, you start with one magnet or one plasma. You do your job, whatever you want to do, you move or you can even go dancing with it. You can see it. You’ve been shown this before. If I can show it here. You see, as I showed yesterday, you can dance. But, still it stays the same. Nothing is lost. Because the field they share, and some of the field goes to the paper underneath and the rest. The principle is that what you started with, you stay still physically as you can observe with in the plasma technology. So, there is no difference in the world of plasma and matter, but, in fact, if we can say the difference is matter is a weak magnet like this, I tried to put the other one aside and plasma is a magnet so powerful like this.
但是，在等离子技术中，我们所做的一切就是将所有的磁场相连，而不用改变或是破坏它的结构。所以，你用一个等离子，一个结构开始。你可以做任何你想做的事，你可以移动或者和它跳舞。你都能看见它。这在以前都是被展示过的。如果我在这展示，你们看，就像我昨天展示过的，你可以跳舞。但是，它仍然和以前一样。没有任何损耗。因为他们所分享的场强，一部分进入到下面的纸中，还剩下一部分。这个原理你能用等离子技术观察到，以什么开始，以什么结束。所以，这在等离子世界中是没有不同的。但事实上，如果我们能说出不同就是物质就像是一个弱磁铁。我试着把它放在一边，而等离子就像是一个强磁铁。
You see, if I use this, look at this. Look how far the magnet jumps. Because it says, I don’t want to be with you. I’m too strong. And you see how much it pushes it away. And so it creates a gap that they are both safe and they can both share their fields together. I can use this magnet as a plasma for hundreds and thousands of years. And it’ll still be what it is. It will be a magnet. You see, the distance dictated is much much further, if you can see. Before, when it was a smaller magnet, I could interact in the size that you could see. Look, you can see the other magnet. This is a distance I can interact with. But, if you can go up in the camera, you can not see the distance.
你们看，如果这样使用，看一看，这块磁铁能跳多远。因为，它好像在说，我不想和你在一起，我非常强壮。你们会看见它能将它推出去。然后它们之间就会形成既能彼此安全又能相互分享场的一段距离。我能将这块磁铁作为等离子使用成百上千年。而且它将还会是它，一块磁铁。你们看，如果你们能看见，这段限定的距离更远了。之前，当它还是一个比较小的磁铁的时候，我可以用你们能看见的大小让他们相互作用。看，你能看见另一个磁铁。这就是我能让它们相互作用出来的一段距离。但是，如果能将照相机往上调，你就能看见这段距离了。
But, if you can go higher with the other one, the distance increases. So, this is how the difference is between the plasma and the matter. First of all, matter is the weakest. The smallest plasma field strength, and plasma covers the full spectrum of the matter, above and below it. So, you have the centre in the plasma which is somewhere in here. The strongest field in this magnet, does not sit in the matter. Sits somewhere here where the man cannot see. But we become habit of our own eyes. We trust our own eyes. But the fields sits the strongest. Because all the fields come in through the centre. So in a way, if you cut it, plasma is always like this. It is a ball. And that’s how, in reality, it looks like.
但是，如果你能再高点和另外一个同一高度，这个距离就会加。所以，这就是等离子和物质的不同。首先，物质是最弱的，最小的等离子场强些，磁场最强，而且物质覆盖了它所有的频谱，无论上面还是下面。所以你就会得到等离子的中心，就是这的某处。这块磁铁最强的场强不在物质中，而是人看不到的某处。但是我们是根据我们的眼睛来判断事物，我们相信我们自己的眼睛。但是这个场就是最强的， 因为所有的场都会通过中心来作用。所以在某种程度上说，如果你切断它，等离子还是总会像这样。它就是一个球，实际上看起来也是如此。
My son is here and he just made something very nice. I’ll show you how it works. He’s put a magnet in a ball. And now, if you move this ball in a distance. You can see it. It can affect even a big magnet in its work. It’s in a ball. It plays football. There it is. So this is the environment that this magnet in a ball can cover. We create an environment and the distance between the two. And it just rolls and rolls until they come together. If I can choose another ball, this way you can see how two plasmas interact, or they get pulled to each other. We can use the small one. And now you see a dynamic plasma. And if you rotate it as the plasma is dynamic, you see the ball starts moving without actually doing anything. And, in so many ways, this is the world of physics and the plasma.When you’re on your own, you are a plasma science. When another piece comes to you, two plasmas make what we call an atom. And this becomes what we call physics, and this is what we talked about last time. And, this is exactly how life is.
今天我儿子也来了，它做了个不错的东西。我将展示它是如何工作的。他把一个磁铁放到了球力。现在，如果你在远处移动这个球，你就会看见，甚至是一块大磁铁也会动。它就在球里面。它在踢足球。就在这。所以这个环境就是这个磁铁在球里所能覆盖的所有地方。我们创建了一个环境和它们之间的距离。它会一只转直到它们相互吸引。如果我用另外一个球，你就能看见这两个等离子相互作用的方法了，或者它们之间形成拉力。它们可以使用较小的那个，然后你就会看见一个动态的等离子。如果你摩擦它就像是球在旋转，你就会看见这个等离子什么都不做就能移动。在许多方面，这就是物理和等离子的世界。当它单独存在的时候，它就是一个等离子科学。当另外一个靠近它的时候，它们两个就会吸引，这就是我们所说的原子。这就是我们所说的物理，也是我们上次所讨论的。更准确的说，这就是生命。
We create an environment, that two plasmas, to magnets can come together. Look. Now, what did we learn from this? What we learned from this, is that, as I mentioned earlier, in the morden knowledge of man We have gone one step further, and one step closer to understand the truth about the work of the universe, the work of creation, the work of food. How our foods are actually made. How our bodies made. Because, in the next few lessons, we start showing how, when so many of this magnets, as we call it, the plasmatic field, come together and lead to the structure of the human body. This is the structure of life, not only on this planet, but in the universe. So, if you understand the simplicity of the work, and don’t make it too complicated that you will have to be a genius to understand, the work of a plasma. You only need to learn two things.
我们创建了一个环境，这两个磁铁，也就是两个等离子能够吸引。看，我们从中学到什么了呢？我们所学到的就是，我以前就提到过的，在人类知识的历史中，我们向前迈了一大步，也就是说向宇宙工程，生命工程和食品工程更近了一步。我们吃的食物是如何做成的，我们的身体是如何组成的。在接下来的几堂课中，我们会学习到。当有许多磁铁的时候，我们所说的等离子场是如何吸引，是如何引导到人类身体的结构的。这是生命的结构，不仅存在于地球，也存在宇宙中。所以，如果你理解这项工作是单纯而不是复杂的，你就能非常好的理解等离子的工作了。
You don’t need to learn anything more than that. How two plasmas interact. And then, it becomes the number of the plasmas how they interact, and how the environment and the condition is created for them to interact, that one piece becomes your finger. And one plasma becomes part of your eye. And one plasma becomes part of your ear and one becomes part of your little beautiful heart. But, in fact, they’re all made of the same thing, the same structure. And in the universe, there is only one structure. Plasmatic magnetic field, which is gravitation coming together. And magnetical, which is what we call separation. And then how they interact, when they come into touch with each other. And how the split leads to the rest of creation. Leads to the rest of what we know.
你只需要学习两种问题，不必再学更多了。一个就是两个等离子如何相互作用，然后变成许多个等离子是如何相互作用。另一个问题就是环境和所创建的条件是如何相互作用的。等离子组成了你的手指，成为你眼睛，耳朵和心脏的一部分。但实际上， 它们都是由同样的东西组成的，而且都是同一个结构。在宇宙中，这只有一种结构。等离子磁场，就是使之在一起的重力。而磁力，就是我们说的分离。当它们相互接触的时候，它们是怎么相互作用的。而分离又是如何引导到其它生命和其它我们所知道的事情的。
When we look into the sky. The operation of all the stars you see in the sky, all the galaxies you see at night. The sun. The way they work and the distance from each other. Because you don’t see all the stars on top of each other. They are distant from each other. The sun has a distance from us. There is no difference between the working of the galaxy and the working of the human body. Human body is a closed galaxy, but it is a galaxy which has chosen to show itself in a regular formation, what we call the human body. But the beginning of all the creation. What’s in the universe and what is on earth? What is in the body of a man? What is in the food you eat? It’s all the same. All based on the interaction of two plasmatic magnetic fields and how they come together.
当我们望向天空，你在天空中所看到的就是，在晚上你看到的银河系，太阳，他们之间的距离以及相互之间是如何运行的。因为所有的星星不在彼此的上面。它们彼此有一段距离。太阳离我们很远，这在银河系工程和人类工程之间没有什么不同。人类就是一个封闭的银河系，但它选择以有规律的形式展现它自己，这就是我们说的身体。但在所有生命之初，在宇宙中有什么呢？在地球上有什么呢？人类的身体里有什么呢？你吃的食物里有什么呢？那是同样的问题。所有都基于两个磁场和它们如何吸引和排斥。你看这两个之间的距离，由于是同样的大小，也是不同的。
And how they distance from each other. If you look at the distance between these two, because of the same size, is different, I’ll try not to lose my finger while I’m trying to show you this. If you look, I’ll put a marker. If I move this, thats the limit. The minute I move, the other one moves. I’ll put a marker there, and I’ll put a marker there. Now I change to a bigger magnet, in a bigger dimension. And now you see the distance. I keep the smaller one the same and I put the bigger one in the position of his friend. And look what happens. If it comes to fast, its broken. It is attracted to fast, you have lost. But, if I can create the right position, and I can keep the other one in its position, and I move this, look where the other one goes. This one is still in the same place.
为了让你们看见，我会做一个标记。如果你这样移动，就出现了极限。只要我移动一个，另一个也会移动。我在这做一个标记，在这也做一个标记。现在我换了一个比较大的磁铁，有更大的规格。现在你就会看见更远的距离。我用原来那个小的，我把大的放到之前的位置上，看一看会发生什么。如果他被吸引的太快，它就会损坏。它被吸引的太快，它就会损坏了。但是，如果我能找到正确的位置，然后我把另一个放到这个位置上，像这样移动，看另外一个到哪个位置。这个仍然在相同的位置。
But now, because of the strength of the bigger one, this one has chosen to be in this position. That’s the difference between the strength of the small, two small, and a big and a small. So, here we create a different condition. When we put more plasma, a bigger plasma, we create a bigger distance so it covers more area. Now, this for example, the first two magnets, were in the body of the man, your finger, your toes. And with the bigger one, is very much like all the galaxies or the stars. Something very interesting. If you look, now the magnets come together. And if I just turn this magnet, it goes the other way. I don’t know if you can see it. What has happened, just look at this magnet. If you can watch it, this magnet rotates. Why does it do that? Have a look. It changes the condition. Just try to see. I keep it steady, but have a look at the other one. This side I mark it blue. If you can see it. And then I just turn it and look what happens.
但是现在，由于较大的那个的力，这个就来到了这个位置。那就是两个小的，和一大一小之间的不同。所以，在这我们创造一个不同的条件。当我们创造更多的等离子，我们就创造了一段更远的距离。所以它就覆盖了更多的区域。
现在，假如两个磁铁在人类的身体里，也许是手指里或是脚趾里。较大的那个，就像是所有的银河系或是星星。这有一些有趣的事，你看，磁铁吸引在一起了。如果我把转一个边，它就向另一边移动。我们不知道你们是否能看见。发生了什么呢，看一下这个磁铁。你会看到磁铁在转。它为什么会转？看，是因为条件被改变了。看一下，我拿好这个，看一看另外一个。这边我标记成蓝色。然后我把它转一个边，看一看会发生什么
It turns. This is how motion is created in the universe. You have, on the same plasma, what is two similar or the south. And then when I leave it, if you look it turns to find its position. This is the behaviour of the plasma. In one side, which is similar and the fields go in the same direction, what we call the north and in one side the fields come together in the same position. And they rotate and create motion and rotation. And if you look, this magnet, why does it behave like this, its because its broken in two halves. Now, you have two halves. The northern half and the southern half. And this is how the creation works in the plasma. What is in the south, all the fields go in. And they have to come out of the north. And if I bring the two together, just watch what happens. They come together in the shape of making a sphere. Because they have to accommodate each other. That they can go and pass and share their fields. So you see in a simple way. You as youngsters have a knowledge which not even your parents were aware of.
Even though they played with it all the time. When they were young, they had magnets the same way you do. But they never understood that a plasma has two properties at the same time.
另外一个也转了。这就是宇宙生成的运动。你看，在相同的等离子上，南极太相似了。然后我把它拿开，它开始转动来寻找它的位置。这就是等离子的移动。在一边，太相似了，场就会朝不同的方面移动，我们管这个叫北极。在另一边，场在同一位置汇合，它们旋转然后创建了旋转的方向。如果你能看见，这块磁铁，为什么它会这样呢?那是因为它碎成了两块。现在，你有了两块碎片。南极和北极。这就是等离子内的运动。南极里有什么呢？所有的场从南极进入，从北极出去。如果我把这两块合在一起，看一看发生什么。它们会聚在一起形成一块区域。因为它们之间相互容纳。是因为它们相互通过和分享它们的场。所以，你们通过简单的方法就可以了解。就像是年轻人知道一件他们父母从不在意的事。即使他们一直都接触这件事。当他们还是孩子的时候，他们用和你们一样的方法想了解磁铁。但是他们永远不知道一个等离子同时有两种属性，吸引和排斥。
Attracting and repelling due to the magnetic fields which is inside it which we taught in the first and second lessons. So, now I hope you understand what we mean. We create a condition. And as we create a condition, we dictate what its going to be and how far it’s going to be. Any questions? No questions.
这个我们在第一堂和第二堂课的时候就已经学习了。所以，现在我希望你们能理解我所说的意思。我们创造一个条件。当我们创造一个条件，我们就能控制它会变成什么以及它变化的速度。还有什么问题吗？没有问题。
Thank you Mr Kesh, that was very interesting. I did have a question. You did bring up something about magnetic fields and how they interact. And I was wondering, how can we keep warm with just magnetic gravitational fields. Would it be some way of heating the air? Would it heat our bodies? How do we keep warm in the plasma universe?
谢谢凯史博士。你的演讲非常有趣。我有一个问题。你提出了关于磁场和它们如何相互作用的一些问题。我想知道我们如何用磁重力场来取暖。是用加热空气的方法吗？还是加热我们的身体？我们在等离子宇宙中如何取暖呢？
In a plasma universe, you make your sun or where you want the heat to come from, to move faster or slower in respect to you. If the magnetic field moves faster, with a more powerful strength, then the interaction with your body is just like the rubbing of the hands. When you rub two hands together fast, it gets warmer and warmer. As you go where the plasma is different, as you go more to the centre the stronger fields interact with the weaker body they release more energy. The process of the heating, there is no… heat itself is a magnetic field. It depends how much of it you want to release from the source. Then that becomes the heated temperature, what you want to be in. But the only difference is, when heating with the plasma, you don’t need to put a match on it or you don’t need to heat, burn it.
在等离子宇宙中，相对于你，你使太阳或者你想从中获得热的地方的速度快或是慢取决于你。如果磁场移动的比较快，伴随着更强大的力，然后它和你身体之间的相互作用就像是摩擦手。当你很快的摩擦双手，它会变得越来越热。在这，等离子是不同的，当你越接近中心时，你会发现强与弱形式相互作用下会释放更多的能量。加热的过程中本身没有加热，而是磁场。这取决于你想从能源那释放多少热,然后变成你想要的加热温度，但唯一不同的是，当对等离子加热，你不必用火柴去加热它。你不必烧它，或是挤压它让它爆炸。你只需要向中心移动，这取决于力有多强。
Or to compress it till it explodes. You go towards the centre, or you move from the centre on depending where the strength has to be. Or you open the plasma, that the stronger field reaches you that you feel warmer. In the future heating, you have the plasma reactors for the heating in the future, it will be totally different to what it is now. It warms you up according to strength of magnetic gravitational fields of your body. And this is very important. There is structure wherever you go, according to the heat you want. It’ll be heated up. Wherever you are. At the moment, if you have a fireplace, and you put a chair in front of it, the chair gets heated up and other things with it. In plasma technologies, these things are not and will not happen.
或者你打开另一个等离子，或打开其它的磁场，然后你会感觉到更温暖了。未来的加热会用到等离子反应器。在将来的加热领域，它将和现在完全不同。它会用你身体的磁重力场来让你感到温暖。这是非常重要的。无论你在哪都能加热。现在，如果你有一个壁炉，你在它前面放一把椅子，椅子和其它东西都会升温。在等离子技术中，这些事情将不会发生。
The wood of the chair will stay. But according to the strength of your body, because its a different structure you can just direct wherever you walk, where you move, heats up according to where you are, in the direction you are,and the environment you are. The plasma technology of the heating is a very simple but very complicated too if you don’t understand it. There is no different the same structure of the plasma but on the strength of the plasma. They never lose it. They are always the same. In a way, when you come into the room nowadays, you turn on the lights, or you dimmer it or you lighten it up. The heating in the future with the plasma technologies is very much the same. But you decide how much of the plasma you want to release and at what strength you want it to be.
木头的力将会保留。但是根据你身体的力，由于你身体的方向，你能指向你要走的方向，，能够根据你的位置，你的方向，你的环境进行加热。等离子技术中的加热非常简单，如果你不理解的话，就需要复杂的工具。因为这在文字上是没有区别的。这就是等离子的相互作用，其实是等离子的力相互作用。这种力不会消失。它们是不变的。在某种程度上，当你走进房间，打开灯，调亮或是点亮。在未来，应用等离子技术加热也是相同的。但是你决定你想要释放多少等离子和多大的力。
Thank you for that.
谢谢你的回答。
KESHE:Welcome back to this heating, because it will be very very interesting. How are you going to do your cooking with the plasma reactors. I’ll tell you one thing for sure, you’ll never burn any food. Burning of the food in cooking is finished. You will never burn your cake in the oven. Because the process of the heating is set as much as you need and the point of what you need the way it has to be.
欢迎回到这次会议，将会有非常有趣的节目。你将如何用等离子反应器来做饭呢？我很确定的告诉你，你将不用烧任何的食物。在做饭中，食物在加热中完成。你不用在烤箱里烤蛋糕。因为加热的过程按照你的需求设定好了，你所需要的就在那里。
And, Mr Kesh, you eventually wouldn’t need, in my opinion, health damaging microwave oven which a lot of people use, which not only distorts the taste but the nourishment quality of our food. Isn’t that, there would be a chance to..
凯史博士，在我看来，你根本不需要许多人都使用的损害健康的微波炉，微波炉不仅破坏味道而且也会损失食物的营养。不是的话，有没有可能……
Uh, let me explain to you. You call it microwave. The plasma cooking facilities of the future are not very far from the microwaves we have. But in a plasma environment. And actually, we’ll come to understand that what you call microwave to be harmful because they are rays. They are created in a certain given direction and they are, they are not in what I call a spherical cascading form. It is like getting a bucket of water and just showering from one direction. That’s why they dislocated the structure of the atom. They create the problems.
让我来解释。你管它叫微波炉。未来的等离子做饭设备不会和微波炉有太大的区别。我们管它叫等离子环境。实际上，我们将会理解到你认为来自微波的东西是有害的因为他们有辐射。他们按给定的方向发出，他们不以我所称为球星级联形式存在。它就像一桶水从一个方向到出来。那就是为什么他们破坏了原子的结构，这就是问题所在。
Oh, OK. Thank you for that.
好，谢谢回答。
In the plasma technology cooker ovens of the future. You reach the plasma in the way you want. And the ovens will not be very different than microwaves. But this will be the plasma. I’ve done a lot of tests on this. And very soon I’ll show you, because this is a very interesting position. Cooking time is instantaneous. The cooking time with the plasma cookers of the future is more or less instantaneous. It is something man cannot imagine but you will see it in a very short time. Burning of the food is a thing of the past. A lot of women will love plasma reactors. Because none of them can spoil the food and none of them can burn the food. You will all become very good housewives and house husbands and housekeepers. Because the men usually burn the food more than the women do. Now everybody becomes a perfect cook.
Well, theres a big selling point for plasma technology. Become a perfect cook.
在等离子技术中，未来的烤箱，你用你希望的方法获得等离子。烤箱将不会和微波炉有太大的区别。但将会使用等离子。我已经在这方面做了许多测试。不久的将来我将会向你们展示，因为这是一个非常有趣的时刻。做饭的时间是瞬间的。未来用等离子做饭的时间差不多是瞬间的。那不是人来能够想象的但是很快你们就会看到。烧食物已经过时了，许多妇女将会喜欢等离子反应器。因为她们将不会煮食物或是烧食物。你们都会变成好的家庭主妇和好丈夫。因为男人通常做饭次数多于女人。每个人都会变成完美的厨师。
Armand says, what about washing the dishes?
阿曼德说，洗盘子呢？
We have to invent the plasma dishwasher before we invent the plasma cooking.
Anyway. It is an exciting time, what is to come and what is going to be. Is there any questions to answer, otherwise we’ll keep it to forty minutes. Because I know after forty minutes, children become impatient.
我们必须在发明等离子做饭器之前发明等离子洗碗器。
不管怎样，未来会变成什么样是令人兴奋的。还有什么问题吗？我们快到40分钟了。因为我知道孩子们的耐心在40分钟之内。
I have one here.
我有一个问题。
You can speak now, no problem. You want to explain something. Close the door please, close the door. OK, is there any question you want to ask?
没问题，你请说。你想解释一些事情。请关门。还有什么问题吗？
Not for now, Mr Keshe.
现在没有了，凯史博士。
I’ve heard a lot of things. Thank you for that.
我收获了很多，谢谢。
Thank you very much, I hope we will learn and as I said, we’re going to go to sleep and in exactly twelve hours we will start a session for the adults. And we’ll see if we can teach the adults a little bit of children.
谢谢你们，我希望你们能像我说的那样学习。我们要睡觉了。在十二小时内，我还有一堂成人课。我们看看能不能教成人一些孩子课堂上讲的知识。
That’s right. That’ll be the 35th knowledge seekers workshop on 11pm pacific on Wednesday and 8am central European time on Thursday. And we’re on the same channel as this live stream.
好吧。太平洋时间周三晚上十一点，也就是中欧时间星期四上午八点，举行第三十五次知识寻求者讲座。我们将在同一频道现场直播。
OK, thank you Mr Keshe. Thank you Kevin.
Thank you Mr Keshe.
See you tomorrow.
Thanks, Bye.
谢谢凯史博士，谢谢卡文。
谢谢凯史博士。
明天见。
谢谢，再见。